The Rapture of the Church – The Trumpet, The Shout and The Gathering of the Saints

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63 Responses to The Rapture of the Church – The Trumpet, The Shout and The Gathering of the Saints

  1. No rapture, just a change in a twinkling of an eye. Cloud is slang for crowed, air is in the spirit

  2. Richard Neal says:

    The whole point comes down to “wrath” and “tribulation.” No where is the promise made to the Church that it will never witness and/or live through “tribulation.” History has shown how true that is. But the Church was promised not to go through “wrath” – the wrath that will be poured out on a non-believing world during The Day of the Lord…

  3. Anonymous says:

    how about the 7 appointed feasts of the lord. The first 4l feast were fulfilled in order the final 3 will be fulfilled in order as well. Than there is the teaching of the bridegroom and bride, it to is prophetic, Jesus is returning for His bride the church in the clouds. Why would He the bridegroom want to beat up His bride? remember the 10 virgins? also the trump in 1 thes., 1 cor. and matthew is an assembly call not a war or wrath call as seen by the trumpets in rev. The trumpets in revelation is blown by angels the on in matthew, 1 cor. and 1 thes. is the trump of God.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Its after the Tribulation.. Since day dot..Cain Abel etc true believers have been persecuted by the non believers……Tribulations all through history…Now its out turn to overcome…. many Christians believe this false doctrine of pre trib….. whats the odds that many will fall for Satan presenting himself as the Alien Messiah….

  5. Anonymous says:

    7 PROOFS OF THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION
    Proof 1
    In 2 Thess. 2:1-12 we have a clear proof that the church and O.T. saints will be raptured before the day of the Lord, that is before the second advent, and before the Revelation of the Antichrist, before Daniel’s 70th week, before the future tribulation, and before the last seven years of this age which ends with the second advent of Christ to the earth.
    In 2 Thess. 2:1-4 Paul beseeches saints not to be deceived by any means or by anybody, as to the coming of the day of the Lord, or the second advent. The two things that were to precede the day of the Lord are:

    1. “A great falling away” and
    2. “That man of sin be revealed” (2 Thess. 2:3).

    Besides these two things Paul revealed that a third great event would take place, this one to precede the day of the Lord or second advent, and also precede the revelation of the man of sin. He said, “he who now letteth [hinders] will let [hinder] until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed” (2 Thess. 2:7-8). Thus it is clear that the hinderer of lawlessness will be taken out of the way before the Antichrist can come. “Our gathering together unto him” of 2 Thess. 2:1 and the hinderer of lawlessness being “taken out of the way” of 2 Thess. 2:7-8 refer to the same event-the rapture of the church and O.T. saints before the Revelation of the Antichrist. And then-when he who hinders lawlessness is taken out of the way-shall that Wicked be revealed.
    Two Comings of the Lord From Heaven,But Only One Coming to the Earth
    1. A coming of the Lord out of heaven for the saints to meet them in the air and to take them to heaven without coming to the earth (1 Thess. 1:10; 1 Thess 2:19-20; 1 Thess 3:13; 1 Thess 4:13-18; 1 Thess 5:1-11,23; 2 Thess. 2:1,7-8; John. 14:1-3; Lk. 21:34-36; Col. 3:4; Eph. 5:27; Jas. 5:7-8; Rev. 5:8-10; Rev 19:1-10).
    2. A coming of the Lord out of heaven with His previously raptured saints to bring them to the earth to fight at Armageddon and to set up a kingdom in the world forever (Rev. 19:1-21; Jude 14-15; 2 Thess. 1:7-10; 2 Thess 2:7-8; 1 Cor. 15:24-28; Mt. 16:27; Mt 24:29-31; Mt 25:31-46; Zech.14:1-5; Dan. 2:44-45; Dan 7:9-14,18,22,27).
    Twelve Truths of 2 Thess. 2:1-12 That the Thessalonians Knew About
    1. That it was possible to be deceived about the rapture and the second advent (2 Thess. 1:1-3).
    2. That the day of the Lord, or the second advent, was not at hand and therefore, it was not the time for the Lord to be here reigning on earth (2 Thess. 2:3).
    3. That they were not to permit themselves to be deceived (2 Thess. 2:3).
    4. That the day of the Lord would begin only at the second advent (2 Thess. 2:3; Zech.14:1-5).
    5. That this day of the Lord, or the second advent, could not have already come because the great apostasy and the Revelation of the man of sin had not yet come (2 Thess. 2:3).
    6. That the man of sin will take over the Jewish temple at Jerusalem and declare himself to be God (2 Thess. 2:4). See Rev. 13;Rev 14:9-11; Rev 15:1-4; Rev 20:4-6; Dan. 9:27; Mt. 24:15-22,29-31.
    7. That the man of sin (the Wicked one or Antichrist) has a definite time to be revealed (2 Thess. 2:6-8).
    8. That “he” who hinders lawlessness and holds back the man of sin will be entirely removed before he will fully come (2 Thess. 2:5-8).
    9. That the mystery of lawlessness is already at work in the world (2 Thess. 2:7).
    10. That Paul’s doctrines had not changed regarding the rapture and the day of the Lord, as false teachers had reported, even forging a letter in his name (2 Thess. 2:2,5).
    11. That the man of sin (Antichrist) would be destroyed by Christ at the second advent when the day of the Lord begins (2 Thess. 2:7-8). See Dan. 7:11; Rev. 19:20;Rev 20:10.
    12. That Antichrist will come after the working of Satan with all power and great deceptions (2 Thess. 2:8-12). See Mt. 24:24; Rev. 13:1-18; Dan. 8:24-25; Dan 11:37-45.
    Seven Other Facts About the Rapture in 1&2 Thessalonians
    1. The church waits for Jesus to come from heaven (1 Thess. 1:10).
    2. The church will be taken to glory (1 Thess. 2:12; cf. Col. 3:4).
    3. Soul winners will have great joy at this coming (1 Thess. 2:19-20).
    4. The saints will be established unblameable before God in heaven (1 Thess. 3:13).
    5. Both the dead and living in Christ will be raptured to heaven to live with Christ (1 Thess. 4:13-18; cf. John. 14:1-3; Phil. 3:21).
    6. God has appointed all saved men to escape His latter-day wrath on men (1 Thess. 5:1-11; cf. Lk. 21:34-36).
    7. Saints will be made whole in body, soul, and spirit at the rapture (1 Thess. 5:23; cf. Phil. 3:21).
    Who Or What Is the Hinderer of Lawlessness?
    Paul definitely said that the hinderer of lawlessness would continue to hinder lawlessness “until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed,” whom the Lord shall destroy at His second advent (2 Thess. 2:7-8). If the question of who or what the hinderer of lawlessness is can be settled, the time of the rapture will be automatically settled.
    Three Things Hindering Lawlessness in the World Today
    1. Human governments (Gen. 9:1-8; Rom 13; 1 Peter 2:14)
    2. The Holy Spirit (John. 14:16;Jn 15:26;Jn 16:7-11)
    3. The church (Mt. 5:13-16; 1 Cor. 12:28; Rom 12:3-8; 1 Peter 4:10-19)

    In no scripture in the two books to the Thessalonians did Paul mention governments or the Holy Spirit as being taken out of the world, but he repeatedly referred to the church as being raptured out of the world and from the earth (1 Thess. 1:10;1 Thess 2:19-20; 1 Thess 4:13-18; 1 Thess 5:1-11,23; 2 Thess. 2:1,7-8). We must, therefore, conclude that the church is the hinderer of lawlessness, and for the following reasons.

    1. Human governments will never be taken out of the world to permit the Revelation of the Antichrist. He himself will even reign over ten kingdoms when he comes (Rev. 17:8-17). And many other governments will be here in other parts of the earth throughout all the days that the man of sin (Antichrist) will be here (Dan. 2:44-45;Dan 7:9-14; Rev. 16:13-16; Zech.14:1-5).
    2. The Holy Spirit will never be taken from the world, for Jesus promised that He would abide with us forever (John. 14:16). In Acts 2:16-21; Zech.12:10 – Zech 13:1,Mt. 24:14; Rev. 7:14; Rev 19:10 and other scriptures we have much proof that the Holy Spirit will still be here throughout the tribulation and the reign of Antichrist. Therefore, He could not be the hinderer of lawlessness that will be taken out of the way.
    3. The church will be taken out of the world by rapture, as stated in the above references. It is the only one of the above mentioned three hinderers of lawlessness that is to be taken out of the world, so it must be the hinderer of 2 Thess. 2:7-8.

    That this hinderer of lawlessness will literally be taken out of the world is clear from the Greek statement, ek mesou genetai, which means, “out of the midst be gone” (2 Thess. 2:7-8). The Greek phrase ek mesou literally means “from among” and is so translated in Mt. 13:49; Acts 17:33;Acts 23:10; 1 Cor. 5:2; 2 Cor. 6:17; Col. 2:13-14; 2 Thess. 2:7. Whatever is referred to as the hinderer is being taken out of the way, not being brought into the midst of men.
    Out of 25 versions examined by this author, not one reads “born out of the midst of men” as said by some who teach that instead of referring to the revelation of Antichrist, this passage (2 Thess. 2:7-8) speaks of his birth. These versions render the passage in 13 different ways, and the thought in every one is not the birth of Antichrist but rather the fact that the hinderer of lawlessness is to be literally removed from the earth, from among men, before the revelation of that Wicked one.
    The renderings of these versions are: “be removed” from the midst (4 times); “be gone”-not here (once); “be gotten out of the way” (3 times); “taken from the midst” not born into the midst (once); “coming to be out of the midst” (once); “is taken out of the way” (twice); “gone from the midst” (once); “the restraining power removed” (once); “disappear from the scene” (once); “be out of the way” (once); “steps out of the way” (once); “becomes out of the way” (once); “taken out of the way” (7 times).
    Even if we believed that the Holy Spirit would be taken out of the world to permit the revelation of the man of sin, we could not possibly believe that He would abandon the church (the body of Christ), leaving it in the world to go through terrible sufferings without Him. Therefore, the church would be taken out of the world with Him, and thus the rapture of the church before the tribulation is proved either way.
    Men have stumbled over the use of the pronoun “he” in 2 Thess. 2:7 for a long time and a great many teachers have not been able to bring themselves to the fact that a masculine pronoun could refer to the church when it has been universally taught that the church is the bride of Christ, a woman, a lady, and a virgin. If the pronoun “she” had been used in 2 Thess. 2:7 every Bible scholar who teaches that the church is the bride of Christ would have automatically believed and taught that this “she” identified the church as the hinderer of lawlessness and would have used this as proof of the church being taken out of the world before the tribulation and Revelation of the Antichrist.
    The Church Is Not the Bride of Christ
    That the church is not the bride of Christ is clear from many scriptures and facts about the church and about the bride of Christ. First, in no scripture is the church ever called the bride of Christ, though the fallacy can be found universally in commentaries, Bible textbooks, doctrine books, song books, and other Christian writings. Never once is this idea stated in the Bible itself, though it does mention the bride of Christ and tells us exactly who it is. Rev. 21:9-10 the angel who said “I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife,” showed it to be “that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God.” See also Rev. 21:2 and Rev 22:17. The inhabitants of the Heavenly Jerusalem are called “his wife” in Rev. 19:1-10. The idea is that all the redeemed of all ages who will go to live in that city will become a part of the Holy City, which is the bride. But to call any individual, or any company of saints, or any group of Christians “the bride” is unscriptural. As a whole they can be a part of the bride, but no single one of them and no one company of saints in any age can be said to be the bride of Christ. See John. 14:1-3; Heb. 11:11-16; Heb 12:22-23; Heb 13:14.
    Second, it is plain in Eph. 2:14-15 and Eph 4:13 that the church is a man and not a woman. Being the body of Christ who was a man and the head of the church, it is only to be expected that His body (the church) would be referred to as a man and not a woman. It cannot be that the head would be that of a man and the body that of a woman. And so, since the church is the body of Christ as stated in 1 Cor. 12:13, 27; Eph. 1:22-23; Col. 1:18,24, then the church is not to be considered a woman. Therefore, the masculine pronoun in 2 Thess. 2:7 is proper and the only one to use of the N.T. church. It is perfectly scriptural to use the pronoun “he” when referring to the whole body of Christ. The Bible uses it many times when referring to whole companies or nations of people made up of both men and women. For example, all the nation of Israel is called “he” (Deut 32:15; Isa.11:16; Josh. 22:22).
    Third, not once is the N.T. church called a woman, a lady, or a virgin. Furthermore, the church is never referred to by a feminine pronoun. Some think that Eph. 5:22-31 would be an exception to this, but a closer reading of the passage will make the meaning clear. Paul illustrates the headship of Christ to the church and His relationship with it by comparing this headship and relationship to a similar headship and relationship which exist between a man and his wife. Christ and His church are one thing and the man and his wife are another, with the feminine pronoun referring to the woman who is the wife of the man, not to the church as the wife of Christ.
    Fourth, some teachers use 2 Cor. 11:1-2 to make the woman a symbol of the church, but Paul is not emphasizing the femininity of the church here. He is simply expressing his desire for his own converts to be pure like a virgin, so that they may be presented in all purity before God. The whole church is not referred to here at all.
    Fifth, others use Gal. 4:26 hoping to prove that the church is symbolized by a woman, but again, this is not the intention of the passage. The apostle expresses the idea that the Holy City is the headquarters and the source of all blessings, comparing the City to a mother as the source of blessings to her children. Using the woman of Rev. 12 as a symbol of the church is missing the mark completely, for this woman is a symbol of Israel as a nation-and not the church (Gen. 37:9-10). Israel is clearly shown to be the wife of God in Isa.54:4-9; Hos. 2:14-18.

    Proof 2
    Another proof of the rapture of the church and O.T. saints before the tribulation is found in Rev. 1:19 and Rev 4:1. All the dead and living in Christ at this point in time will be raptured to meet the Lord in the air to be taken to heaven to live in mansions, in the Father’s house with Christ eternally (John. 14:1-3; Lk. 21:34-36; 1 Cor. 15:23,51-56; Eph. 5:27; Col. 3:4; 1 Thess. 2:19-20; 1 Thess 3:13; 1 Thess 4:13-18; 1 Thess 5:1-11,23; Jas. 5:7-8; Heb 11:10-16; Heb 12:22-23; Heb 13:14; Rev. 5:8-10; Rev 19:1-10).
    Christ made it clear to John in t and Rev. 4:1 that all the details of every prophecy in Rev. 4:1 -Rev 22:21. This is confirmed without controversy in the three-fold division of the book of Revelation.
    The Three Divisions of Revelation
    1. “Write the things which thou hast seen.” That is, as the first division of this book write the vision that you saw of me (Christ) in the midst of the candlesticks in Rev. 1:11-18 (Rev. 1:19). This John did in the first chapter of the book.
    2. “Write the things which are.” That is, in the second division of the book of Revelation write the things that I (Christ) will tell you to write about concerning the churches, or concerning the church on earth. This John did in Rev. 2:1 – Rev 3:22(Rev. 1:19).
    3. “Write the things which must be hereafter.” That is, as the third and last division of the book of Revelation write the things that I (Christ) will show you after you have completed things concerning the churches. These last things do not concern the things of the churches-they concern events after the church age. These things to happen after the church age were recorded by John in Rev. 4:1 – Rev 22:21 (Rev. 1:19).
    The Key to the Book of Revelation
    If one will accept this simple three-fold division of Revelation, as in the above, and keep every detail of the events in the proper division as revealed, this will truly serve as the key to an understanding of the entire book. All that is required for an understanding of these events is to take them literally as things to happen on the earth from John’s day forward into all eternity to come, making sure above all else that each event is put in its proper place or order of events as they are revealed-each in its own division, not mixing those things concerning the church with those things which must be after the churches.
    We have in the things concerning the churches, and the events which must be after the churches two separate and distinct series of happenings that cover two separate and distinct periods of time-one period covering the church age (Rev. 2:1 – Rev 3:22), and the other covering the time from the end of the church period, or church age, into all eternity to come (Rev. 4:1 – Rev 22:5). Whenever we see that “the things which are” belong to the church age, and that “the things which must be after the things which are” belong to the period from the close of the church age on into all eternity, then the entire book becomes as simple to understand as John. 3:16. The main thing to keep in mind is that Rev. 4:1 – Rev 22:21 will be fulfilled after the church age, and, therefore, after the rapture of the church. Not one of these latter-day details has anything to do with the church age.
    Summary of Things After the Rapture-After the Church Age
    1. Events in heaven that John saw after he arrived there, as in Rev. 4:1, including the raptured church and O.T. saints who were seen in heaven by this time, being a fulfillment of things revealed here, for the first time, as happening after the churches (Rev. 4:1 – Rev 5:14). The raptured church saints are definitely pictured as being in heaven at this point (Rev. 5:8-10).
    2. Events of Daniel’s 70th week, or the last seven years of this age between the events which John saw in heaven in Rev. 4 and Rev 5 and the second advent in Rev. 19:11-21. This period covers all the seven seals, seven trumpets, and seven vials, and all other details regarding the two witnesses (Rev. 11:3-12), the woman and the manchild (Rev. 12), the two beasts (Rev. 13:1 – Rev 14:20); and the great whore (Rev. 17).
    3. The marriage supper of the Lamb and the second advent (Rev. 19:1-21).
    4. The Millennium-1,000-year reign of Christ to put down all rebellion on earth (Rev. 10:1-6; 1 Cor. 15:24-28; Eph. 1:10).
    5. Events ending the 1,000-year reign of Christ including the renovation of the heavens and the earth by fire (Rev. 20:7-15; 2 Peter 3:10-13; Heb. 1:10-12;Heb 12:26-29).
    6. Events of the eternal new heaven and the new earth (Rev. 21-22; Isa.65:17;Isa 66:22-24; 2 Peter 3:10-13).

    From the above we can see that it would be erroneous to make various details of history a part of things yet to happen which are the seven seals, seven trumpets, seven vials, and other events including the woman and the manchild of Rev. 12. For instance, it would be erroneous to say that the ascension of Christ 65 years before John wrote the book of Revelation was actually the ascension of the manchild (Rev. 12:5) in the middle of events which must be after the churches. In comparing 25 versions with the King James Version, the author has found that every one is in agreement with the fact that the prophecies of Rev. 4:1 on through the 22nd chapter of the book are to be fulfilled in detail after the churches, that is, after the church age-and this is in agreement with the three-fold division of Revelation as stated above.
    To quote various renderings of Rev. 4:1 one says, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place hereafter”; another says, “what must come to pass after this”; and others say, “which are to happen in the future”; and, “what things must come to pass”-all referring to what should happen after the churches which John had just completed writing about in the second division of his book (Rev. 2:1 – Rev 3:22).

    Proof 3
    Another proof of a rapture of the church and O.T. saints before the tribulation lies in the literal fulfillment of Lk. 21:34-36. Christ personally promised all true believers who would meet the conditions that they would “escape all these things” and “stand before the son of man.” The things that the “worthy” ones were to escape are those listed in Lk. 21:1-11,25-33; Mt. 24:1 -Mt 25:46; Mk. 13 and Rev. 4:1 – Rev 18:24. The only way they could do this would be to be raptured before these events took place. To escape means that they would not suffer or have to endure these things, and to stand before the Son of man means that they would be raptured bodily so as to be able to stand before Him in bodily presence. They will therefore literally rise “to meet him in the air” and be received by Christ to go up to heaven to live with Him (John. 14:1-3; 1 Cor. 15:23,51-54; Eph. 5:27; Phil. 3:21; Col. 3:4; 1 Thess. 2:19-20; 1 Thess 3:13; 1 Thess 4:13-18; 1 Thess 5:1-11,23; 2 Thess. 2:1,7-8; Jas. 5:7-8; 1 John. 2:28;1 John 3:1-3; Rev. 1:19; Rev 4:1; Rev 5:8-10; Rev 19:1-10).
    The Greek word for “escape” in Lk. 21:36 is ekpheugo, meaning to flee out of the way (Acts 19:16); to get away (Acts 16:27); and to escape danger and even hell (Lk. 21:36; Rom.2:3; 2 Cor. 11:33; 1 Thess. 5:1-4; Heb. 2:3;Heb 12:25).

    Proof 4
    A proof of a rapture of the church and O.T. saints before the tribulation is found in Rev. 5:8-10. Here we have the raptured saints of all past ages up to this point already in heaven having been already redeemed and raptured to heaven. They are the “kings and priests” from “every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation” who will reign on the earth. They are in heaven at this point in the fulfillment of Rev. 4:1 – Rev 22:21, all of which must be fulfilled after the churches. The fact that they are here revealed as already having been redeemed and raptured cannot be denied. They are pre-tribulation saints and they are in heaven at the very beginning of the tribulation which starts in the first seal and continues throughout the entire seven seals, the seven trumpets, and the seven vials of Rev. 6:1 – Rev 16:21; Rev 18:1-24. The tribulation saints are those that are martyred in this 70th week of Daniel (Rev. 6:9-11; Rev 7:9-17; Rev 14:9-13; Rev 15:1-5; Rev 20:4-7; Dan. 7:21;Dan 9:27). There is a special song of redemption related to the pre-tribulation saints (Rev. 5:8-10) that is entirely different from the song sung 3 ½ years later by the 144,000 (Rev. 14:1-5), and the one sung seven years later by the tribulation saints (Rev. 15:1-5).

    Proof 5
    In 1 Thess. 5:1-11 Paul makes it plain that the wrath of God that begins in the sixth seal of Rev. 6:12-17 in the first 3 ½ years of Daniel’s 70th week is not “appointed” for the church, but for the ungodly world. He said, “God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation [deliverance] by our Lord Jesus Christ,” so that both the dead and the living in Christ can live together in the rapture (1 Thess. 5:9-11). In view of this deliverance for both the dead and the living in Christ at the rapture, we are to be comforted (1 Thess. 4:18;1 Thess 5:11). And, since this wrath begins in the first part or in the first 3 ½ years of Daniel’s 70th week, at the point of the sixth seal, then the church will be raptured before that. Furthermore, since the raptured saints are seen in heaven-in Rev. 5:8-10-before the first seal begins, we must then conclude that the rapture takes place before any of the seals begin.

    Proof 6
    The enthroned elders of Rev. 4:4,10; Rev 5:5-8,11,14; Rev 7:11,13; Rev 11:16; Rev 14:3; and Rev 19:4 being seated on 24 thrones around the throne of God as representatives of the raptured saints of Rev. 5:8-10 is proof that they are not only redeemed, but that they are also raptured by this time, that is, before the seven seals, seven trumpets and seven vials begin. The fact that they are seen in heaven in Rev. 5 at a time before the rapture of the 144,000 (Rev. 14:1-5) and before the rapture of the tribulation saints (Rev. 15:1-4) makes it clear that the enthroned elders are representatives of the church and O.T. saints, and not representatives of these other groups raptured later.

    Proof 7
    The fact that Rev. 1:1 – Rev 3:22 deals only with the church on earth, and Rev. 4- Rev 19 deals with Israel gives us another proof of a rapture of the church and O.T. saints before the tribulation. Every individual is identified and recognized by his own features and characteristics. Even so, in this case a body of individuals is identified by its many features, characteristics, and peculiarities. If the church is seen on earth and is being dealt with by God during the tribulation in chapters Rev 4- Rev 19 in the book of Revelation, then we must see its earmarks. But they are not to be found there. The terms “church” and “churches” are not found once in this part of the book of Revelation. On the other hand, there are evidences of Israel everywhere in this section. And this fact is most striking: Israel is not mentioned at all in Rev. 1:1 – Rev 3:22 which deals only with the church on earth. This fact shows that the two different institutions are dealt with in different parts of the book of Revelation: first, the church until its rapture in Rev. 1:1 – 3:22; then Israel after the rapture of the church, in Rev. 4:1 – Rev 22:5.
    The Hebrew Character of Revelation After Rev. 1-3
    1. The word “Lamb” is used of Christ 27 times after Rev. 1-3 (which deals with the church age) and not once in these first three chapters of the book. It is never used by Paul in his epistles to the churches; and outside the book of Revelation it is used only in John. 1:29,36; Acts 8:32; 1 Peter 1:19. The Lamb is the antitype of all Jewish sacrifices.
    2. “The Lion of the tribe of Juda” and “the Root of David” (Rev. 5:5) show a Jewish connection.
    3. The 144,000 of Rev. 7:1-8; Rev 9:4; Rev 12:5; Rev 14:1-5 are Jewish as well as the woman and her remnant.
    4. The events of the seals, trumpets, and vials are a partial repetition of the plagues in Egypt which took place at a time when the Gentiles were seeking to destroy Israel (Rev. 6:1 – Rev 19:21).
    5. The tribulation of Rev. 6:1 – Rev 19:21 concerns Israel in particular (see Chapter 2).
    6. Daniel’s 70th week will be fulfilled in Rev. 6:1 – Rev 19:21 which definitely concerns “thy people” (Israel) and “thy city” (Jerusalem) as indicated in Dan. 9:24-27. The middle and last 3 ½ years of this Week are mentioned many times in connection with Israel but not in connection with the church (Dan. 7:21,25;Dan 9:27;Dan 12:1-7; Mt. 24:15-22; Rev. 11:1-12; Rev 12:5,14; Rev 13:5).
    7. The ministry of the angel around the altar (Rev. 8:2-5) and the horns of the altar (Rev. 9:13; Rev 11:1; Rev 14:19; Rev 16:7) are familiar only to Israel.
    8. The temple and its worship, the altar, the court of the Gentiles, the Holy City, olive trees, the candlesticks (Rev. 11:4), the ark of the covenant (Rev. 11:1-19; Zech.4:14; Mal. 4:5-6) and other details here are Jewish-not details related to church worship.
    9. “The kingdoms of this world” becoming those of God and of Christ is strictly Jewish in prediction and in fulfillment, being mentioned hundreds of times in the Jewish O.T. as well as in the N.T. (Lk. 1:32-33; Acts 1:6-7; Rev. 11:15, etc.).
    10. The dragon, the beast, and the false prophet (Rev. 13:1 – Rev 19:21) are referred to many times in Jewish prophecies in O.T. books whereas the church is not once mentioned as being here when these prophecies are being fulfilled.
    11. Michael (Rev. 12:7-12) is truly Jewish as he is the prince of Israel (Dan. 10:13-21;Dan 12:1-9). He is never mentioned in connection with the church.
    12. Literal Babylon of Rev. 14:8; Rev 16:17-21; Rev 18:1-24 is solely a Jewish reference and the predictions will be fulfilled when many other Jewish predictions are fulfilled (Isa.13-14; Zech.5; Jer. 50-51). Babylon was the place where Israel was held captive for many years (Jer. 25).
    13. Armageddon of Rev. 19 is Jewish (Zech.14:1-14).

    • Ignorant One says:

      I may have missed this, but I haven’t seen anyone mention Ezekiel Chapter 13.
      Also it has taken many years for man to advance his bible understanding to what it is today, and we are still learning.
      I admit, I am not well versed on the rapture, tribulation, or the bible itself, by I do have a question about the church coming down from haven with Jesus.
      Question: Is it possible that the rapture of the church already happened? When Jesus rose from the dead there was also reports of dead Saints being seen all over, then when Jesus was taken up the sightings seemed to stop.
      Are those Saints his church?

      • Richard Neal says:

        Ezekiel 13 is only concerned with the false prophets of the inter-testamental period – not with the end of this age…No, the rapture event has not already taken place because it only becomes necessary because the Antichrist, his False Prophet and the fourth empire of Daniel 7 of which he is king over begin to annihilate the Church through “great tribulation.” The Church is on the verge of total annihilation which forces the Lord to rapture what few Christians are left off to Heaven to protect them from The Day of the Lord’s Wrath which will begin the day the Lord raptures His Church…The whole Church, then, follows Christ back to earth when The Day of the Lord’s Wrath comes to an end and judgements begin to be handed out by Christ on a non-believing world, the Antichrist, the False Prophet, etc…You should read my book and keep up with my blog posts at http://www.KingdomOfTheAntichrist.com if you want to learn more…

    • Richard Neal says:

      Your problem lies in your inability to properly differentiate between the four eschatological time periods that make up the end of this age: The War of Gog and Magog (Eze 38, 39), Daniel’s 70 Week, The Great Tribulation Period and The Day of the Lord’s Wrath…The War of Gog and Magog is only concerned with modern Israel and the fourth “beast” or empire of Dan 7; Daniel’s 70th Week which is an eschatological time period that is only concerned with the Jewish nation of Israel (Dan 9:24). Three and one-half years after Daniel’s 70th Week has started (Dan 9:27), or in the middle of Daniel’s 7, the Antichrist will begin to persecute the Church (Rev 13:1-10). This is the beginning of the Great Tribulation Period (Matt 24:15-21) and is a time period only concerned with the church (Matt 24:22). Approximately three and one-half years later as The Great Tribulation Period draws to a close the Lord will “cut short” the Great Tribulation Period (Matt 24:22) and rapture His church off to Heaven in what will be a “Pre-Wrath” rapture of the church. I call it a “Pre-Wrath” rapture of the church because the rapture event brings to an end The Great Tribulation Period and The Day of the Lord’s Wrath begins immediately thereafter…You write “In 2 Thess. 2:1-12 we have a clear proof that the church and O.T. saints will be raptured before the day of the Lord, that is before the second advent, and before the Revelation of the Antichrist, before Daniel’s 70th week, before the future tribulation, and before the last seven years of this age which ends with the second advent of Christ to the earth.”…You are correct when you write “In 2 Thess. 2:1-12 we have a clear proof that the church and O.T. saints will be raptured before the DAY OF THE LORD[S] WRATH.” For the Church is spared from “wrath” (1st Thess 5:9) but not from the “great tribulation” (Matt 24:21); but then you go on to incorrectly state “that is before the second advent, and before the Revelation of the Antichrist, before Daniel’s 70th week, before the future tribulation, and before the last seven years of this age which ends with the second advent of Christ to the earth.” And you make this mistake because, as I stated earlier, you do not properly differentiate between the four eschatological time periods spoken of in scripture…For “the revelation of the Antichrist” takes place at the end of The War of Gog and Magog which is the beginning of Daniel’s 70th Week (Dan 9:27) – when he enters into a seven year peace treaty with Israel that is when he will be revealed…Let me put it to you this way: The War of Gog and Magog, which will be between Israel and the fourth empire of Daniel 7 (Islamic Empire) (Eze 38,39) ends then the Antichrist and the False Prophet take control of the fourth “beast” or empire of Daniel 7 and enters into a peace treaty with Israel. This act not only reveals the Antichrist, but it also begins Daniel’s 70th Week. Three and one-half years later the Antichrist performs “the abomination that causes desolation” act and this event begins The Great Tribulation Period when the Antichrist, his False Prophet and the fourth “beast” or empire, which he is king over (Rev 17:10) begins to annihilate the Church. The Lord cuts this time of “great tribulation” short through the rapture of the Church and then The Days of the Lord’s Wrath begins…You should really read my book and keep up on my blog posts at http://www.KingdomOfTheAntichrist.com if you want to know and understand more…

  6. Anonymous says:

    Rapture before Antichrist
    The church will continue to hinder lawlessness until the rapture. And then the Antichrist will be revealed. This is conclusive proof that the rapture takes place before Daniel’s 70th week and the tribulation of Rev. 6:1-19:21. According to Daniel 9:27, Antichrist will be here for 7 years, for he makes a 7-year covenant with Israel. If he is here for 7 years, which will be the last 7 years of this age, and if he who hinders lawlessness refers to the church and is taken out of the way before he comes, then the rapture will take place before the last 7 years of this age and before the Antichrist comes at the beginning of those 7 years.

    • Richard Neal says:

      I have no idea what you mean by “The church will continue to hinder lawlessness until the rapture?”

      • Abraham1970 says:

        Come on Richard, surely you can figure out what Anon is referring to. 2 Thes 2:1-8,
        “Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God….6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in His time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;” Obviously “He who now restrains” is the Holy Spirit and He can only be removed if the Saints are gone. If we have the Holy Spirit living inside of us as followers of Jesus, then He would have to “remove” us as well when He removes the “Restrainer”. Anon makes a good point. I’m not saying pre-wrath is wrong, just saying these verses are worth looking into.

      • Richard Neal says:

        I was being facetious Abraham1970 – because the verses Anonymous is obviously referring to is 2nd Thess 2:1-8…But no where in 2nd Thess 2:1-8 does it say that the Church is hindering lawlessness – but rather “He” – or the Holy Spirit is who is “hindering lawlessness.” Moreover, Paul is quite clearly speaking about the eschatological time period known as The Day of the Lord’s Wrath as to when this would take place – not the Great Tribulation Period. So, in other words, the Holy Spirit and the Church will be taken out – or raptured – prior to the beginning of the Day of the Lord’s Wrath which, again, is consistent with a “pre-wrath rapture” of the church. Had Paul wanted to say the church would be raptured prior to Daniel’s 70th Week or the Great Tribulation Period I’m sure he would have said so….Thus 2nd Thess 2:1-8 is one of the strongest verses in all of scripture for a pre-wrath rapture of the Church…

  7. Angelgirl says:

    I have to just shake my head at some of you. Do you really think that…in modern language…Jesus would say, C’mon. let’s get married, go home…I will beat you bloody, scare you to the point you wish you were dead but death won’t come,THEN we will go out to dinner. Sounds awesome doesn’t it? Anyone with a brain who knows how much Jesus loves His bride, the church, those who keep their garments clean by repentance when they fall, living and loving Jesus and putting Him first. If you knew the ancient Jewish customs and traditions of betrothal and marriage, you would see how it fits in with salvation, living for the Lord, becoming the bride of Christ and falling in love with Him over and over again AND THE RAPTURE! It all fits hand in hand.

    Some of you are so dead set that Jesus Himself wouldn’t be able to convince you of His love for those who love Him back wholly and completely. Such a shame you feel that your Savior won’t save His bride. If truly you want to know more, get back to me!

    • Richard Neal says:

      Did Jesus love the antediluvian world any less than He loves His church?…Did Jesus love Israel any less when He allowed the Philistines, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Syrians, the Egyptians or the Romans to conquer them?…Did Jesus not love His church any less for the first 300 years of its existence while the Jews and the Romans persecuted the church?…The Great Tribulation Period is not about whether or not Jesus loves His church – but rather it is about how much His church loves Him…www.KingdomOfTheAntichrist.com

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes! You are absolutely right Angelgirl! They do error greatly not knowing the scriptures or the love of God!

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes, Angelgirl! Richard does not know the scriptures nor the love of God!

  8. Anonymous says:

    Notice: after the tribulation of those days

    MAT 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be
    darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars
    shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be
    shaken:
    MAT 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and
    then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see
    the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great
    glory.
    MAT 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and
    they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one
    end of heaven to the other.Amen

    • Abraham1970 says:

      I’ve seen several quote these verses but no one seems to question vs 31. It says “gather together His elect from the 4 WINDS” and “from one end of HEAVEN to the other” Wonder why it doesn’t say 4 corners of the earth or from one end of the earth to the other? Wouldn’t this seem to indicate that the elect are already in the clouds? In 1st Thes 4:16-17, Paul doesn’t mention an ensuing battle but in Rev 19:14 it says, “And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses.” Again, it looks like we (His army) will be coming with him from the clouds for the final battle which would be different than the Bowl Judgments in Rev 16. It looks like separate events either way you look at it. So, I can come together on the pre-wrath rapture but not the post-trib rapture. He took Noah out before the wrath, and He took Lot out before the wrath and I believe that Rom 5:9 supports the Church being taken out before the wrath of God comes which Rev 15 and 16 speaks of.

  9. Linda Evans says:

    One thing for certain, “if you don’t believe in a pretrib rapture you certainly won’t need to worry about it. If you don’t believe something then it will not manifest for you” However, not believing it does not mean it will not happen. It just won’t happen for you.

    • Richard Neal says:

      You’re absolutely wrong Linda: If a “pre–trib” rapture of the Church is indeed accurate then regardless of one’s beliefs for or against a “pre-trib” rapture the Lord will take all true Christians at His gathering…It is amazing to me to see a Christian claim – and in a public setting, that if another Christian doesn’t believe exactly as they do on a minor doctrinal point, that they would be punished to the point of missing out on the rapture event all together?…One with love in their heart for their Christian brethren and maybe wrong on the timing of the rapture will, indeed, make the rapture before one with no love in their heart for their brethren and right about the timing of the rapture will…Think about that…

  10. Suzanne says:

    I subscribed to your YouTube channel and looked forward to to your updates, but now I cannot watch them because I can’t afford to purchase each one ;(

  11. Ina says:

    I am going up, you can stay for the tribulation. Your choice. Good luck

  12. Anonymous says:

    29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other…AFTER THE TRIB>

    • Abraham1970 says:

      I’ve seen several quote these verses but no one seems to question vrs 31. It says “gather together His elect from the 4 WINDS” and “from one end of HEAVEN to the other” Wonder why it doesn’t say 4 corners of the earth or from one end of the earth to the other? Wouldn’t this seem to indicate that the elect are already in the clouds? In 1st Thes 4:16-17, Paul doesn’t mention an ensuing battle but in Rev 19:14 it says, “And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses.” Again, it looks like we (His army) will be coming with him from the clouds for the final battle which would be different than the Bowl Judgments in Rev 16. It looks like separate events either way you look at it. So, I can come together on the pre-wrath rapture but not the post-trib rapture. He took Noah out before the wrath, and He took Lot out before the wrath and I believe that Rom 5:9 supports the Church being taken out before the wrath of God comes which Rev 15 and 16 speaks of.

  13. Anonymous says:

    “Let it be according to your faith……… ” No one said that could / will be left behind… What is so impoertant for the believer is this: whether the Church gets raptured or not, make sure u have oil in your lamp, and are not one of the 5 foolish virgins that could not enter at the marriage of the groom.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Re 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

    Re 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

    Re 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

    This is prophesy of Jesus Christ returning for his saints in the clouds. This time is still future tense.

    1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    This is not the end of man upon the earth.

    Mt 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Mt 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Lu 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    Now most all of Gods people are taught to think and believe that this is the last event on earth to affect them and they need not be concerned because Christ is coming back. It is true the last event on this earth to affect the saints is the return of Christ but it’s not the next event. The next event to affect the believers on this earth is recorded in a chapter before the prophesy of the return of Christ in revelations 13.

    Re 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

    The key to understanding chapter 13 is knowing who or what the beast is. Some say the beast is a super human being. Others say the beast is the devil and his number is 666. The last verse of this chapter gives the answer.

    Re 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    If you were to call the beast his number is 666 and man would be the one to answer. The beast is man or mankind. Lets look at more prophesy concerning the same time period given unto Daniel.

    Da 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

    The fourth kingdom upon earth is the fourth a final kingdom of mankind. It’s mans dominion, mans kingdom, mans governance of this earth. Lately its been called a “one world government” or a “new world order” God calls it a beast.

    Now this fourth kingdom upon earth, which will be governed by men, shall start out with ten kings. When you see a world government set up with ten kings know that this beast will have risen. This will become important later.

    Da 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

    Global governance will begin with ten kings but later the structure of its leadership will be changed. Knowing whom the beast is we can go back to verse two of chapter 13 in the book of revelations and begin to understand more details about this final kingdom to be ruled by man upon this earth.

    Re 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    Like a leopard, feet of a bear, mouth of a lion are all figures of speech. To keep it simple lets just look at other ways God uses these in a figure of speech.

    Jer 5:6 Wherefore a lion out of the forest shall slay them, and a wolf of the evenings shall spoil them, a leopard shall watch over their cities:

    The leopard shall watch over their cities.

    Ho 13:7 Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:

    As a leopard will I observe them. The beast like unto a leopard is a kingdom under surveillance.

    Ho 13:8 I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.

    “As a bear bereaved of her whelps rending”. The feet of a bear is a path of destruction. God has said that this kingdom, the beast, shall devour the whole earth, and tread it down, and break it in pieces.

    2Sa 17:8 …, thou knowest thy father and his men, that they be mighty men, and they be chafed in their minds, as a bear robbed of her whelps in the field: and thy father is a man of war, and will not lodge with the people.

    The word chafed in this verse comes from the Hebrew word marah and is used 38 times in the bible. Only once is it translated into the English word chafed, one time as angry, one time as discontented, and one time as heavy. All other times it’s translated into the English word bitter.

    Ex 15:23 And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter: therefore the name of it was called Marah.

    The beast with the feet as of a bear is the kingdom of man. Whose men of war are taught to be bereaved and become bitterly angry and move with destruction. This kingdom will be subdued by force. Man calls it an iron fist. God calls it “feet as of a bear”.

    Re 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

    The mouth of the lion represents the voice of the kingdom as being the dominant voice. This battle can be seen in evolution verses creation. Evolution is the word of man. Creation is the word of god. The mouth of the lion roared and creation in no longer taught in the schools were we get our daily education. It’s controlled speech and controlled thought. This Nations first colleges like Harvard, Yale, and over a hundred others were all built with the intent to teach the rightly divided word of truth from the King James Bible.

    Re 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    Now that we understand the nature of the beast we can move on to the dragon that gave the beast his seat. The word seat comes from the Greek word thronos and is translated into the English word throne 54 out of the 61 times it’s used.

    Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    Here in chapter 12 we read that the dragon is the Devil and Satan. Since the devil is not the beast the devils number also is not 666. The beast is mankind and mans number is 666.

    Lu 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

    Lu 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

    Lu 4:7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

    The devil first offered this seat or this throne to Jesus Christ who turned it down. So he goes and gives it to the beast or mankind willing to sell out. All the kingdoms of the world given into the hands of mankind is world government. The subject matter of revelations 13 is the final kingdom to be established upon this earth before Christ reins in his kingdom with a new heaven and a new earth.

    Re 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

    When this beast of a kingdom becomes officially established with its ten kings it’s going to receive a deadly headshot wound. It’s what the word of God says, look at it. This is something the dragon is not telling the beast. The dragon is just using the beast to dominate the earth. The dragon knows the truth. If the beast knew that shortly after its kingdom was established it was going to become wounded to death. Then the men who make up this kingdom might hesitate ushering in their new world order.

    Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

    Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

    This is the time and judgment. The time is 42 months after man achieves his world kingdom given unto him by Satan. The judgment is a deadly wound to the head. We have not yet seen this beast rise but we can begin to see it emerging. With its surveillance grid, military might and dominate voice. When the leopard sees something the mouth of the lion is going to say something and the feet of the bear is going to enforce it. This is how the beast rolls.

    Now the question must be answered as to how the beast is wounded. The answer can be found in the 14th verse of this chapter.

    Re 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    The beast which had the wound by a sword. So what is the sword?

    Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

    The sword of the spirit is the word of God. The only thing that is going to shut down world government is the word of God. Not only is it the only thing but also God says it’s going to happen 42 months after it begins.

    Ac 19:20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.

    Look! If the church was manifesting the spirit of God and rightly dividing the word of truth there would be no need for a revival. Truth is there is not one church that does. We are living in the same kind of times as spoken of in Jeremiah chapter 5 when God tells Jeremiah to find just one man who rightly divides the truth and practically applies it.

    Jer 5:1 Run ye to and fro through the streets of Jerusalem, and see now, and know, and seek in the broad places thereof, if ye can find a man, if there be any that executeth judgment, that seeketh the truth; and I will pardon it.

    God goes on to warn Jeremiah that though they say they do, surely they don’t.

    Jer 5:2 And though they say, The LORD liveth; surely they swear falsely.

    So it is today. All the churches say that they seek the truth but they don’t. If they did there would be no division.

    Ac 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    Noble Christians search the scriptures daily. Many Christians can say they search the web daily or they search the channels on TV daily. Some could even say they search the paper daily but very few will say they search the scriptures daily. This is because your not being taught how to search the scriptures. Anybody can read the word of God but how many can search the scriptures for specific truth on any given subject? These noble Christians of Thessalonica first received the word. In order to receive the word someone has to teach it.

    2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    There shall be false teachers among you. Hear what the word of the God says? And there are false teachers everywhere. False teachers can be easily identified by three men in the bible. Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar from the book of Job. Eliphaz reasoned with Job according to his experience.

    Job 4:8 Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.

    Eliphaz tried to convince Job based upon his experience that Job must have done something wrong or all of Jobs calamity wouldn’t have happened. This is the person who stands up and reads a verse or two from the bible and then proceeds to validate those verses by experiences.

    Bildad reasons with Job based upon the traditions of men.

    Job 8:8 For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:

    Zophar reasoned with Job by human merit. These three men tried to reason righteous by their experiences, traditions, and good deeds. A true teacher will reason righteousness by the word of God.

    Lu 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

    This is speaking of Jesus Christ who was teaching two men along the way. He began at Moses and traced through the bible by memory all the sections of scripture concerning himself and gave the understanding of them.

    Ac 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

    Paul’s manner was to “reason” using the scriptures. This is the same manner of a true teacher.

    2Co 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.

    Take this blueprint of a teacher and look around you. Flip through the channels on your TV and see if you can spot Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar.

    Jer 5:30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

    Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

    The priest bear rule by their own means. By their experiences, and traditions, and human merit, and not by the word of God. This and the prophets prophesying falsely is a horrible thing. The wonderful thing, which is not wonderful. The word in its Hebrew form means astonishing appalment. The astonishment is “my people love to have it so”. God’s people love it when the leaders of the church are not doing the will of God. This is astonishing.

    and what will ye do in the end thereof?

    What happens to a nation of Gods people who go in and possess a land and become fat off the land delighting themselves in the great goodness of God?

    Ne 9:24 So the children went in and possessed the land, and thou subduedst before them the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, and gavest them into their hands, with their kings, and the people of the land, that they might do with them as they would.

    Ne 9:25 And they took strong cities, and a fat land, and possessed houses full of all goods, wells digged, vineyards, and oliveyards, and fruit trees in abundance: so they did eat, and were filled, and became fat, and delighted themselves in thy great goodness.

    Ne 9:26 Nevertheless they were disobedient, and rebelled against thee, and cast thy law behind their backs, and slew thy prophets which testified against them to turn them to thee, and they wrought great provocations.

    Ne 9:27 Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.

    Ne 9:28 But after they had rest, they did evil again before thee: therefore leftest thou them in the hand of their enemies, so that they had the dominion over them: yet when they returned, and cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and many times didst thou deliver them according to thy mercies;

    Many times have the people of God delighted themselves in his great goodness and then became complacent. Only to have their enemies triumphant over them. Then when the distress, the affliction, and vexation become too much. They cry to God and he hears them and delivers them.

    So shall it be again sometime during the process of this beast rising up Gods people are going to be humbled and turn their hearts to him.

    Ps 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.

    God is going to send his word and heal the church from its astonishing behavior. This word that God sends is the sword that wounds the beast 42 months after it makes its first appearance.

  15. Richard Neal says:

    “…or Departure of the Church from the coming Wrath to come of the Tribulation mentioned by many of the Old Testament Prophets of the Bible…” Like most Christian theologians since the 17th century the makers of this video are obviously working off the false premise that The Great Tribulation Period and The Day of the Lord’s Wrath are one and the same eschatological time period when nothing could be further from the truth…Daniel’s 70th Week is one eschatological time period that is only concerned with the Jewish people; The Great Tribulation Period, which begins at the midpoint of Daniel’s 70th Week, is a second eschatological time period and it only concerns the Church; and The Day of the Lord’s Wrath is the third eschatological time period and it starts the same day The Great Tribulation Period comes to an end when Christ raptures what few Christians are left on the earth. Consequently, it is only concerned with all non-believing nations and people left behind…Consequently, Scripture never teaches a “Pre-Tribulation” rapture of the Church as is clearly implies in the quote I began this review with, but rather Scripture clearly teaches a “Pre-Wrath” rapture of the Church…Read about the Pre-Wrath rapture of the Church and much more on end time prophecy at http://www.KingdomOfTheAntichrist.com

  16. b says:

    False messiah , great deception comes first …bowls and trumpets are the wrath of God in the trib, rapture will happen b4 that , not b4 the false messiah

    • Richard Neal says:

      The “false messiah” or Antichrist will persecute the Church throughout the second half of Daniel’s 70th Week, those three and one-half years in eschatological time are called “The Great Tribulation Period” for a reason – because the “false messiah” or Antichrist and his empire (the fourth empire of Daniel 7) will persecute the Church almost to extinction…So “The Day of the Lord’s Wrath” takes place once the saints (church) are raptured at the end of the Great Tribulation Period. So you are wrong b – because the “false messiah” will arrive before the saints are raptured to Heaven…www.KingdomOfTheAntichrist.com

      • the antichrist according to Paul was beginning to work during his days and would continue to week ,and the Anti-christ is noone other than the Roman Catholic Church ,which for 1260days of Daniel 7:25 ,according to the bible a day is like unto a year and the RCC persecuted christians from 538-1798AD,and the 70 weeks of Daniel are past gone they were counted from the order of the rebuilding of the 2nd temple of the Jews that is long past and the three and a half years are the years when Jesus had ascendend to heaven and the Jews still had the salvation preached to them until the gospel was taken to the Gentiles after the death of Steven.so dont wait for the antichrist he is working right now

  17. jack says:

    Too bad you won’t be able to refund anyone’s money since the mark of the beast won’t allow ya to.

    But really, get off the new-age hype of being taken up before the beast is ‘given power to overcome the saints’, because it started from a very disturbed person, whose name was already mentioned… and it was never a doctrine preached before the 1830s.

    The pre-tribulation rapture is nothing more than one of the enemy’s long plotted and final tactics to keep as many Christians disarmed and easily found when the system comes rounding us up for the ‘concentration camps, and beheadings’.

    By the way, this message comes from one of the most accurate prophetic people of this generation in america, my words are not cast here, lightly.

    • catherine says:

      I AGREE withyou jack most of us are going to be caught off guard

    • Anonymous says:

      AMEN!

    • olivia yves says:

      Rapture False doctrine: John Darby 1830 AD

      • Anonymous says:

        I LOVE THE WAY THE BIBLE HAS TALKED ABOUT YOU GUYS, OR IM SORRY SCOFFERS IN THE LAST DAYS ,YOU FINILY SHOW UP ,AND SOON TO GET A FRONT ROW SEAT ,I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE LOOK ON Y`LLS FACES WHEN THIS HAPPENS ,BUTTTTT ,IM NOT GOING TO BE HERE ,WHEM DAMASCUS IS WIPED AWAY IN ONE DAY ,THEN WHAT WILL BE YOUR EXCUSE ?MEN LOVE DARKNESS RATHER THEN THE LIGHT …….

      • joann greene says:

        Isn’t it safer to believe in God and be wrong than to not believe in God and be wrong? you don’t lose by believing and your life will be much better by believing

    • Bobby says:

      Funny how the church isn’t mentioned once after chapter 3 of Revelation, The Tribulation period involves the “Tribulation saint” not the church! and then after the Tribulation we see the bride (The church) coming to earth with the Lord! The Marriage of the Lamb and the judgment seat of Christ is during the Tribulation! Every one of your comments I can debunk so very easily. LOL 1830′s!!! so the New Testament teaching of the rapture wasn’t preached??? Hmmm so Paul didn’t Preach it? Get it together Please!

      • Richard Neal says:

        Obviously Bobby you would have a difficult time defending your statement that “the church isn’t mentioned once after chapter 3 of Revelation” since the whole book of Revelation was written specifically for the Church and the Church, if you know how to interpret Scripture correctly, is found throughout the book of Revelation as it is in most eschatological prophecies throughout Scripture. Just as you would have a very difficult time defending “The Tribulation period involves the “Tribulation saint” not the church” since Christ clearly taught, as did John and many other prophets and apostles, that the “tribulation saints” are none other than Christians alive during the Great Tribulation Period…You should learn the facts before you confuse and frighten any more “Saints” with your poor regurgitation of false doctrinal beliefs. Learn the truth in my new book, Kingdom of the Antichrist/Rise of the Beast and while following my blog posts at http://www.KingdomOfTheAntichrist.com. You can debate me there all you want – I would welcome it…

      • David says:

        it is mentioned you just dont like what the church is called

      • Quasar says:

        Matthew 16:18 (KJV)”And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” So Jesus said Hell will not prevail against the Church. But in Revelation 13:7, John writes, “It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them.” This is the antichrist warring against the saints of God. But that contradicts what Jesus said- UNLESS there are 2 different groups of saints, at 2 different times! 1 group will be the Church, and the other will be the tribulation saints.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sure glad the judgement begins in the house of the LORD.

      • Richard Neal says:

        What “judgement begins in the house of the Lord?”…The Great Tribulation Period surely can not be considered a “judgement?” The only “judgement” to occur during the end of this age will be during “The Day of the Lord’s Wrath” when God judges the nations and individuals who have rejected His Messiah…

  18. Anonymous says:

    Hope there is message to all believer

  19. jackiemckeever379 says:

    Please can you sell digital versions for those of us from the rest of the world

    • olivia yves says:

      Rapture False doctrine: John Darby 1830 AD

      • Bobby says:

        So 1st Thessalonians 4:17 is a false doctrine? Hmmmm. wasn’t the New Testament Prior to 1830? Me thinks!

      • Richard Neal says:

        The rapture doctrine is not “false doctrine” as you claim, for 1st Thess 4:17 and many other verses, if one knows how to read their Bible correctly, are quite clear on the subject. What is false, however, is the “pre-tribulation” rapture of the Church Darby and so many others have taught since the 19th century. For Scripture clearly teaches a “pre-wrath” rapture of the Church. Learn the details, which are too many to go into here, at http://www.KingdomOfTheAntichrist.com

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree no where in the BIBLE does it mention rapture people jump to thess. but go to matthew 24.29Im29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other imediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other..ITS AFTER THE TRIBULATION

      • Anonymous says:

        29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other ..AFTER THE TRIBULATION

      • YeshuaLoverofmySoul says:

        It is the timing of it, LAST TRUMP. Immediately after the trib. The whole pre trib thing reaks of antisemitic overtones. The church is gone the undeserving Houses of Israel and Judah are left to wrath. BULL PUCKY. People need to check themselves.

      • Abraham1970 says:

        I’ve seen several quote these verses but no one seems to question vs 31. It says “gather together His elect from the 4 WINDS” and “from one end of HEAVEN to the other” Wonder why it doesn’t say 4 corners of the earth or from one end of the earth to the other? Wouldn’t this seem to indicate that the elect are already in the clouds? In 1st Thes 4:16-17, Paul doesn’t mention an ensuing battle but in Rev 19:14 it says, “And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses.” Again, it looks like we (His army) will be coming with him from the clouds for the final battle which would be different than the Bowl Judgments in Rev 16. It looks like separate events either way you look at it. So, I can come together on the pre-wrath rapture but not the post-trib rapture. He took Noah out before the wrath, and He took Lot out before the wrath and I believe that Rom 5:9 supports the Church being taken out before the wrath of God comes which Rev 15 and 16 speaks of.

      • joann greene says:

        You go ahead and believe in what John Darby 1830 AD Because Jesus promises to return for His people, and it’s not a secret.. Jesus does not lie John Darby will stand before God one day and answer for his lies and leading people into HELL!

        You will note that Paul says that Jesus, when He returns to take us out, does not come all the way down to the earth, but
        rather comes down only as far as the clouds. The world below will not see Jesus at this time, only those believers who are
        “caught up” in the clouds to be with Him. There will be nothing “secret” about this event as a). it will be apparent to all those
        raptured what is happening, and b). the impact and devastation that will be felt by those left behind will be obvious and very
        immediate. Nothing secret about it, but, those left behind on earth will not see Jesus take us, only the aftermath of that
        event. Does Jesus say anywhere in the Bible that He will return again for His People?

        “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.” John 14: 1-3

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