What We Believe

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• In the Bible as the inspired and infallible Word of God.
(2Tim. 3:15, 16)

• In one God, eternally existent in three persons. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
(Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; Mark 12:29)

• In the virgin birth of Christ, His vicarious, atoning death, bodily resurrection, and ascension.
(Isaiah. 7:14; Rom. 8:34; Acts 1:10)

• In salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ.
(1 John 5:10; Rom. 10:13-15)

• In water baptism by immersion.
(Matt. 28:19)

• In divine healing through the redemptive work of Christ on the cross.
(Isa. 53:4; Matt 8:16,17; James. 5:13,14)

• In the baptism in the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues.
(Acts 2:4; 10:44-46; 15:8,9)

• In the sanctifying power of the Holy Spirit who enables a believer to live holy.
(Heb. 12:14; 1 Peter 1:15,16)

• In the second coming of Jesus Christ.
(Acts 24:15, Luke 14:14; Rev. 19:7-9)

79 Responses to What We Believe

  1. atul says:

    I think what u believe is right and correct instead of these discussion we should love god more

  2. Daniel ben Ya'acov Ysrael says:

    You should revisite your belief! There is not such “virgin birth”, trinity, and other pagan signs in the Word of the Living Elohim (god).
    Salavation in hebrew is “shuv”, and to repent is to make “t’shuvah”, meaning returning to the old path, the only way which make one wise into salvation, through Mashiach Yehoshua , not the lawless “jesus”.
    Torah is the way of life, to love Elohim (god) is to keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome.
    Sin is the transgression of the Torah (5 books Moshe) (1 John 3:4) and those who sin will not enter the Kningdom of Elohim (god).

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  4. Barney Agor says:

    Aloha! Are you a proponent of the pre-Trib Rapture? I will begin! I do not teach man’s traditions and this is one of them! I am called to teach only what is found in the Holy Scripture -not scripture(s).

  5. Allistair says:

    Regarding your belief on tongues, I would like to ask you to read the passages of scripture again. Though Acts 2:4 does mention speaking in tongues when the Spirit came upon them, vs 8 explains this phenomena, clearly indicating that when the disciples left the room, speaking in the tongues the Spirit had just given them, other people understood them. These tongues were not of a heavenly nature, but of various dialects of the people listening. Acts 10:44-46 Peter goes to the Gentiles. Yet again he speaks in their local language, not heavenly. The ability for Peter to have spoken in the Gentiles local language was a sign to them that heard him. Paul writes in 1 Cor 12:10 that tongues are a gift. This does not mean that everyone will get it. This does not imply that someone that does not speak in tongues does not have the Spirit indwelling them. The Spirit sees fit to give tongues to anyone, not as a sign of evidence of Holy Spirit baptism.

  6. Bob Gaudio says:

    Great website! I’m going to like you on Facebook.

  7. anna says:

    i was wondering does tribulation start first or the rapture at one time i thougt it was the rapture
    but god knows the truth i was so confused i also speak in tounges and sing in tounges and for 5 to 6 years have not gone to church and did not read my bible i was back slidden,
    i just pray that somone will guide me to the truth.

    • tribulation first…pretty sure.you can look it up too.

    • I would be glad to show you sister what YHVH says in Scriptures. Ok on the day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2: solves our question in verses 6,7. THE Miracle was that these, 12 deciples only spoke a dialect of Galilean, but people was there from over most of the world known to man at that time. so these 12 Galileans, YHVH used their vocal chords that day, vs. 4 ” The Spirit gave them utterance” vs. 5 “devout men from every nation under heaven. the Word “tongues” in vs. 4 is #1100 glossa= language, or dialect, of nations, naturally unaquired! vs. 6 “every man heard them speak in their own language” iow they understood it and don’t need an interpreter. vs. 8 ” how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?” iow these 12 Galileo men who only speak Galilean language, how do we understand them on our native slang language, iow it’s an earthly intelligent language, not something confusing or unintelligible? the miracle was in the ears, and what the races and Gentiles from all around the then known world was hearing, not what the 12 was speaking, or else, how would they know top say Amen

  8. reuben ondieki says:

    do you believe in bible sabbath

    • Daniel ben Ya'acov Ysrael says:

      Yes I do believe, but not what they call the traditional “saturday shabbat” which came with Hillel II.

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  10. bhowel03216 says:

    Hell is mentioned and discussed in the Bible more than Heaven. God wishes that NO ONE perish. But God is a just God and is so wholly He can’t even look upon sin… He will punish it. He said He would and I believe Him.

    • lu says:

      1 Tim. 3-16: And without controversy is the mistery of godliness, God was manifested in flesh. justified in the spirit , seen of angels , preached unto the gentiles, believed on in the world , received up into glory.

      • Daniel ben Ya'acov Ysrael says:

        Just read 1 timothy 3:16 in the rigt way and not a way that twist the word:
        1Ti 3:16 And evidently great is the mystery of godliness, which was manifested in the flesh, was justified in the spirit, appeared unto angels, hath been preached unto the Gentiles, is believed in the world, is taken up in glory.

        It is “godliness” that was manifested in the flesh, not “god”.

  11. Anonymous says:

    “I am the way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to Father but through me.” -Jesus John 14:6

  12. lu says:

    John 3-3 :JESUS ANSWERED AND SAITH UNTO HIM . VERILY , VERILY .I SAY UNTO THEE. EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN , HE CANOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

  13. lu says:

    God Bless every one of you, we called Christians we must ask the LORD to help us to find the right way , sometimes we just follow our own understanding and there is the problem .Nowadays so many groups or organizations , we have the baptist , the pentecostal , the mormons and so on , so many others, that are no more than man men organization following man men doctrine , what is the similarity with all these organizations ? they follow the BIBLE yes they do but mix with men doctrine bad interpretations of the BIBLE and that is how all started in the begining so all these groups started , remember the bread from the communion or the LORD Supper were and is not supposed to mix with yeast so is the WORD OF WORD it can not be mix , the Bible tells us that we must try all spirits, how we do that? mesuring it with the WORD , so when sobody says that GOD use man to bring a message, I say YES i believe that also, because that is the way the LORD has done it always and HE doesnot change, and we can see in the old testament , so He used NOAH, MOISES,ELIJAH,and many others , He used them to bring a message to the people of their ages . now when we mesuring those who started all these organization (these prophets) they are not according to the Word, they end up mixing the Word with their own undertanding. if we read Acts we see how that happend then , when Paul said that plenty were coming with different teachings so, we see that same spirit we have it today , they were organising themselves but NOT THE DISCIPLES they continue with the same message that JESUS thought them , so why we do it now? the same devil spirit that told eve she could eat from the tree when GOD said not to eat from , is the same spirit that is telling the people today YOU CAN STILL DRINK OR WOMEN CAN CUT THEIR HAIR AND SO ON when the BIBLE SAY WE MUST NOT DO IT,1 CORINTHIANS 11-15 : BUT IF A WOMAN HAVE LONG HAIR , IT IS A GLORY TO HER; FOR HER HAIR IS GIVEN HER FOR A COVERING. but today that spirit is telling the people that was for that time not now . So that same spirit is telling the people that everybody will be saved you can go on sinnig everything will be alright when GOD TELL US IN THE BIBLE THAT WE MUST REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED EVERY ONE OF YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISION OF SIN, AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. JESUSCHRIST IS THE NAME, NOT FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST , THOSE ARE JUST TITLES ,when JESUS said in Mattew about baptizing in the name of Father ,Son , and Holy Ghost, He said a NAme , so why then Peter said in Acts 2:38 JESUSCHRIST is the name to be baptized? , was Peter wrong or teaching something against JESUS teaching? NOO Peter knew , He had the REVELATION that JESUS was and is the three of them Father, Son , Holy Ghost. REMEMBER THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD THERE IS NOT CONFUTION NOR CONTRADITION .
    the three of them in a flesh body.

    I want also to talk about the parables in MARK 4 WHEN JESUS WAS TELLING THEM ABOUT THE SOWER’S SEED the people did not understand and the disciples did not understand eather but look what Jesus said in the verse 10-12:AND WHEN HE WAS ALONE, THEY THAT WERE ABOUT HIM WITH THE TWELVE ASKED OF HIM THE PARABLE.

    AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, UNTO YOU IT IS GIVEN TO KNOW THE MYSTERY OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD: BUT UNTO THEM THAT THAT ARE WITHOUT , ALL THESE THINGS ARE DONE IN PARABLES:

    THAT SEEING THEY MAY SEE, AND NOT PERCEIVE; AND HEARING THEY MAY HEAR, AND NOT UNDERSTAND ; LEST AT ANY TIMETHEY SHOULD BE CONVERTED , AND THEIR SINS SHOULD BE FORGIVEN THEM.

    THE LORD KNEW BACK THEN THAT MANY PEOPLE WERE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE THE MESSAGE, THE MESSAGE WAS PREACHED TO EVERYBODY BUT WAS NOT FOR EVERYBODY , HE KNEW WHO WAS GOING TO BELIEVE SO HE KNOWS NOW . THE PARABLE OF THE VIRGINS IN MATTEW 25 LETS NOT BE LIKE THE FOOLISH THAT DID NOT HAVE EXTRA OIL AND THE GROOM CAME AND THEY DID NOT GO WITH THE GROOM (RAPTURE) THE OIL IS THE HOLY GHOST , UNLESS THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS IN US WE WONT GO WITH THE GROOM , LETS NOT BE FOOLISH CHRISTIANS, LETS BE THE WISE CHRISTIANS WHO HAD EXTRA OIL AND WERE READY WHEN THE GROOM CAME , LETS REPENT , BAPTAZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS AND LETS BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM UNTIL HE AND US BECOME ONE .LETS BE LIKE HIM, LET THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD COME IN US AND WE WILL BE NEW CRIATURES IN CHRIST , LETS BE HOLY HOW OUR FATHER IS HOLY , NOTHING DURTY WILL ENTER IN HEAVEN , THEN LETS CLEAN OUR GARMENT, LET OTHERS SEE JESUS IN US ,LETS GET OUR TOKEN . GOD BLESS YOU.

  14. Bluequest says:

    You lost me at Tongues – Enjoy

  15. James R. Simmons says:

    Do you want to know how tomorrows newspaper will turn out? Read the Bible with understanding from the original languages it was written in,and proper contextual interpretations,need help? listen for a few weeks to shepherdschapel.com

  16. ProudAmerican says:

    Mark 16:19 – When the Lord Jesus had finished talking with them, he was taken up into heaven and sat down in the place of honor at God’s right hand.

    • tapiwa says:

      Mening God has a right hand and a left hand. My Father is A Spirit, said our master. He sat on the right hand of His Majesty, the power of God. Right hand sympolic??Mean

  17. Susan Caine says:

    I sure hope that with all the different little dots and colours in the explanations above, none of you are saying you are better or “righter” than other God-fearing people on the planet who are attempting to do what God asks of them?

  18. man has not the ability to comprehend the mysteries of God! God our father is God! Jesus is God, the Holy spirit is God! not three gods but one God who exists outside of time and physics as we know them! Remember that Abram said that” God would provide himself a burnt offering” God was himself that offering in fleshly form on Calvary’s cross! The Mormons have a different Jesus ; not the one proclaimed in the bible! From the very start of creation God tells us of his plan of redemption! there could be no forgiveness of mans sin unless blood was shed! Only blood of an unblemished (sinless lamb) human .Only God incarnated in flesh was suitable to meet the ransom price!

    • tapiwa says:

      Hear Oh Israel the Lord your God is one LORD. My Father is A SPIRIT (singular). In Jesus dwelt the fulness of God bodily. There are no three gods or three personalities or three thrones, or trinity. There is only one God. And He is A SPIRIT. And that Spirit dwelt a Body of a man called Jesus. The creator became a man

    • Daniel ben Ya'acov Ysrael says:

      Very fancy view and confusion! First in Hebrew “Spirit” is feminine Gender, it is like a mother.
      Yehoshua is the descendant of David according to the flesh (roman 1:3 sperma in Greek for seed, same in Acts 13: 23, the word “seed” is also “sperma” in the Greek text. No doubt that Paul and Luke spoke from the physical appearance of our Master.
      Sin is the transgression of the Torah (5 books Moshe) and that from the beginning, it has nothing to do with the blood from sinless man.
      1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin committeth also iniquity. And sin is iniquity.
      Iniquity = transgression of the Torah.
      Yehoshua (jesus) is the prophet like Moshe (D’varim/Deuter. 18:15-18, John 6:14
      Elohim “god” has never, be on earth, never, the simple reason is that where LIGHT comes, darkness disappeared.
      1Tm 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Master of masters;
      1Tm 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting.
      This is the ONLY TRUE ELOHIM (god) YHWH WHO DWELL IN A LIGHT THAT NO MAN CAN APPROACH, WHOM NO MAN HAS SEEN.
      Yehoshua is our brother and we struggle to become in His likeness who Himsel is the IMAGE (perfect reflection of Elohim (god) attributes.
      Rm 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
      Hé 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
      Hé 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PErSON, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
      In the Greek text:
      IMAGE:G5481 χαρακτήρ charakter (khar-ak-tare’) n.
      1. a graver (the tool or the person)
      2. (by implication) engraving ((“character”), the figure stamped, i.e. an exact copy or (figuratively) representation

  19. Carole Sweat says:

    From (“What we Believe”), your Prophetic Perspective . This also is what “I Believe”. One Gift of (your 9 mentioned), I have surpassed all but, the Speaking in other tongues.••• [And, or the Interpretation in other tongues!]. “I AM OF BAPTIST FAITH”, and a Christian for 19 1/2 years. (54 yrs of age @ present). ####””C A N T. W A I T. •••••U N T I L. T H E. (2nd). S E C O N D •••••”A D V E N T”. [[[C O M I N G. O F •••••••C H R I S T!! ""]]] ####IM SO SICK OF THIS CORRUPT WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY AND IM SURE “”T H E. LORD. IS TOO”” !!!!!!!!!!!!!! A M. E. N. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Mt.24:11 is what is being fulfilled in this our generation. If those prophets were of God, they would not need to update their former comments when the present conditions mismatch their former prophecies. That goes to show where they are getting their false prophetic comments.
    The Lord is ONE. Saturday is not a rest day of God.The entering in and resting is the true sabbath to one’s soul. There is a true virgin, the original unperverted gospel. It becomes a whore and a harlot once manmade theology enters into it and hybreeds it with their seed (false doctrine) to make for themselves followers, then become stiff-necked, and hard-hearted to anything that does not agree with thier ‘what we believe’ nonsense.

  21. tapiwa says:

    I just want to differ with your doctrine of One God eternally existing in three persons, its not scriptural. Deutronomy 6: Hear oh Israel, your God is One Lord. My father is A Spirit and those who worship Him must worship him in truth and in spirit. There was never a vision by a prophet that ever saw three thrones in heaven. They all saw one throne. I believe it was just one God en morphe, in different dispensations. How can you have an ertenal Son. A son should have beginning. So if he ever begun then God has no beginning of days. just want

  22. Johnny Buled says:

    Why do you allow information to be posted om your site that is giving time beyond 6 thousand plus years the earth has been formed. when people starting about 10 million years ago that don`t have a clue to who or what Gods words says.

    • Indeed, the Torah, (5 books Moshe) do not support a literal 6000 years from creation, BUT from “b’reshit” (Beginning). The Torah in the first chapter do not say that nothing existed before but that the earth was VOID (Tohu v ‘vohu) or in chaos. This let explain how human science and Torah can found a common ground. Indeed the physical earth may be 10 millions years old. The Creation of Adam (mankind) and the universe we are living nowadays is 6000 years old, this is what the Torah says. The day will come when again this earth will be renewed to be like it was before Adam sin.
      You can read in my blog about creation:

      http://danielbenyaacovysrael.blogspot.fr/2013/11/parsha-breshit-in-beginning.html

  23. Olga says:

    Too many people think that when we try to lead them to Jesus and God, that we think that we are ‘holier then thou’….and that just isn’t so…we just love them.

  24. Olga says:

    Oh Onotice…you are so correct…! Also, we aren’t demeaning the one who is in these ‘cults’, we are just wanting them to see that it is a ‘cult’ that they are into…..we love them and want them to seek God’s Heaven the way God has provided it for us mankind, but only through Jesus Christ’s atonement…His Precious Blood….God in the flesh….

  25. Onotice says:

    @LoveQuotes2: what you have is a man made religion(ie: man telling man how to reach God) We have a relationship, God telling us how to reach himself. I know you can’t possibly understand that spiritual aspect of the scriptures yet. But given how you arrived at your position, you are lying to us on the issues of definitions of each aspect of the Godhood. If you think for one second that your group is Christian you are sadly mistaken and have been taken in like a ponzi-scheme. Just because you use the same words the Christian church uses, it’s your definition of each that defines the difference and without spiritual discernment you can’t tell the difference between a true christian and a cult.( ie: I saw on you web site LDS.com a group you are touting as good reading ” Scientology” by Ron L Hubbard.) THAT shows no spiritual discernment what so ever by your church head or in your church doctrine and develops a false sense of security in your church.. Your basis of acceptance is only if they get their “burning of the bossum ” and nothing else, then you indoctrinate that individual without any spiritual respect of the Holy God. So you are a church of wanna-bees, with titles and a false basis of what the God of the Bible is requiring. Again you definition of saved again isn’t Biblical at all. You are equating saved with resurrection and they a very far apart in meaning and what each does for a christian. Along with the Foundation of your church, based on what Joseph Smith did in the early 1800′s. There-in is were the ponzi-scheme began. for you it began when you thought this church was christian and when you found out it was wrong, you were too committed to quit now, and you have let that false hope scare you into staying,bc of all the loses you will take up and including your wife and kids. If you don’t repent from your sins, they will stay with you, John 3;16-18 will get you started and on a life of no works or requirements that God will put on you to get into Heaven. And your true spiritual walk will begin.

  26. LoveQuotes2 says:

    One correction: all will be “saved” meaning to most people the resurrection. But all will not be given “eternal life,” meaning life forever with the Savior of mankind and Father in Heaven. https://sites.google.com/site/basketballfootballbaseball/

    • Everybody on earth GOT SAVED when Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again, but most people find that a fairy tale and then there is also all the different kinds of religions.

    • Avigayil7 says:

      Can you define the Mormon definition of “saved?” Thank you.

      • Matt Lugardo says:

        Mormonism was created by a charlatan, Joseph Smith. He was also a freemason and practiced witchcraft and Satanism. The internet is here to learn.

      • Avigayil7 says:

        Thank you Matt. I was kind of hoping to get a definition from LoveQuotes2 on his belief of what salvation is.

      • Olga says:

        You are exactly right Matt… I beleive there are a great number who don’t even know what a “freemason” is….heh, I’m just learning it myself and I’ve been of the Christian faith for 37 years. There are a number of “Masons” in my area and it seems they just believe that their mission or duty is to do great things in and for our community….I’m just learning that they are definetly a ‘cult’ and they don’t even know it….so sad.. We pray that God Almighty will open their eyes/ears/heart to the Gospel message of our Lord Jesus, and believe with all their hearts, and be ‘saved’….Praise God…!

      • Anonymous says:

        And the term Rapture was created by a charlatan. You don’t find that in the bible. Yet because the man was a pasture somehow it is truth. Your pastors are nothing more than paid prophets to tell you their own opinions of how they define truth. Pastors themselves are charlatans and yet you still pay them to preach to you truth. You have all been scammed.

    • Daniel says:

      rec·on·cile: to restore to friendship or harmony; to make consistent or congruous ; to account for; (and my personal favorite when it comes to what GOD has planned) to cause to submit to or accept something . Why do I give you this ? Because there is no eternal destruction or punishment or anything of that manner for anybody like everybody seems to want to believe for some selfish unloving reason . There is only eternal life for all . Some just get it faster than others . Why do I say this? Here’s why.1 Colossians 15-23 ; who is the image of the invisible God, first-born of ALL ( notice the ALL here and of what ? ) CREATION ,( remember that now ) 16 because in him were ALL (there is that ALL again hmmm!) things( what?) Created ( that’s right . All things are created by him . no exception to anything . ALL means ALL . And now he goes on to explain what the ALL is . ), those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those visible, and those invisible, whether thrones, whether lordships, whether principalities, whether authorities;( pretty sure that covers everything he created) ALL ( again) things through him, and for him, have been CREATED, 17 and himself is before ALL, and ALL( getting the point yet ?) things in him have consisted. 18 And himself is the head of the body — the assembly — who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in ALL [things] — himself — first, 19 because in him it did please all the fullness to tabernacle, 20 and through him to RECONCILE ( whoa! what’s that ??? Reconcile ???? Not destroy forever ??? Just in case you forgot the full meaning of reconcile . See above .) the( what?)……. ALL THINGS to himself — having made peace through the blood of his cross( That’s right . The cross saved us ALL . Not some . Not just believers . ALL of his CREATION was saved ) — through him, whether the things upon the EARTH (all of us are on earth ), whether the things in the HEAVENS ( we know who is there. And who is soon to be booted out ! ) 21 And you (non believers) — once being alienated, and enemies in the mind, in the evil works, ( important sentence ahead!!)………YET NOW HE DID RECONCILE,( Wow!!!) 22 in the body of his flesh through the death, to present you holy, and unblemished, and unblameable before himself.

      See now ? Do you understand ? ALL creation from HIM ( that includes Lucifer !) ALL creation RECONCILED. I know it’s hard to swallow but it is all there in black and white in the Bible . All those verses that say destroy or eternal punishment or anything of that nature for the wicked are mistranslations of some sort . Or we are just misunderstanding the meaning . Now that we know that there is no eternal destruction we must assume that when we read eternal destruction . It probably means eternal destruction of whatever was wicked in us . The spirit is spared . Let’s call it purified in the lake of fire …OOUCH!! That’s why I said that some get to eternal life a little faster than others . That is one of the rewards a believer receives . A non believer obviously needs to endure some incredibly terrifying experiences for their reconciliation .

      Amen

      • Avigayil7 says:

        “All those verses that say destroy or eternal punishment or anything of that nature for the wicked are mistranslations of some sort .”

        Hell is very real … there is no mistranslation. Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me.” Salvation can only be found in belief in Jesus Christ, His sacrifice for our sins, His resurrection and His deity. Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. – How long does the lake of fire last? – Rev 20:10 says for ever and ever. This does mean for ever and ever – eternity.

      • Anonymous says:

        Daniel, that is complete heresy my friend! Very convenient though. Your twisting of scripture is so out there that I am not even going to submit a rebuttal; the absurdity in your argument speaks loud and clear!

      • your comments jive only with parts of the Word. Why then does someone get thrown into the lake of fire. Why was it created if all are to be reconciled unto Him? Whats the need for a white throne judgement? Why comment on name removed if it was to become reconciled? Man shall not live (have life) by bread alone, but by every Word that proceeds out of the Mouth of God. Every Word, means Every Word, not a portion and ignore the rest.

      • Ron Murphy says:

        Daniel, Paul was talking to the church, not the world, Yes you surely did misunderstand. You saying satan is reconciled is sick, sir. You can’t use part of the Bible to contradict other parts of the Bible. Rev. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.***** If you do not repent you will be lost and spend eternity in this lake of fire, I suspect to be in the heart of the earth. Your soul will never die, but death is eternal.

      • tapiwa says:

        I cannot believe this. Revelation 20 speaks about second death. Lake of fire. Christ speaks about Lake of fire that was created for Satan and his angels. Daniel is told on Chp 12 that some will be raised to dishounor others to eternal life. Christ speaks of goats and sheep. Revelations 18- 20 speaks of the Book of life and the destruction of those whose names were not found in this book. Paul speaks of the destruction of the children of disobedience. Malachi 5 speaks of the dreadful day of the Lord. Let God be true and every man a lier. WE WILL NEVER LISTEN TO THESE HERETICS TRYING TO TEACH US OTHERWISE WHEN THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF SALVATION TO BELIEVERS AND JUDGEMENT TO THE DISOBEDIENT! GOD’ S JUSTICE REWARDS THE OBIDIENT AND PUNISHES REBELS OTHERWISE THERE IS NO JUSTICE

      • ProudAmerican says:

        Daniel, these scriptures were meant for people who were already Christians, not for Non-Christians. He was speaking to the Church when he wrote this. You also didn’t continue on to the next scripture. Let’s analyse the next verse: Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of [a] your evil behavior (before accepting Christ). 22) But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation— 23) IF (key word here IF) you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
        The key word is not reconcile. Lucifer has never nor will never be able to repent, and continue in his faith and hold fast until the end. Christ died as a sacrifice for humans. Lucifer is not a human and does not qualify. You have been deceived!
        I pray that you will seek God and repent of your sins. Ask Christ to come into your heart. There is no sins for humans that is too big or small for God. The Holy Spirit will guide you and teach you the truth.

      • Your posting is jut to bring confusion. How can you dare to say that ALL will be saved? Have you ever think about those who have lost one or more of their love ones? Have you read how YHWH send the Babylonians to punish by death His own children?
        Ps 19:7 The Torah of יהוה is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of יהוה is sure, making wise the simple.

        Ez 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
        Ez 18:5 But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,
        Dn 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt*.
        Dn 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
        *
        The Hebrew :Dn 12:2 וְרַבִּים מִיְּשֵׁנֵי אַדְמַת־עָפָר יָקִיצוּ אֵלֶּה לְחַיֵּי עֹולָם וְאֵלֶּה לַחֲרָפֹות לְדִרְאֹון עֹולָֽם׃ ס
        Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne and one sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away: and there was no place found for them
        Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne. And the books were opened: and another book was opened, which was the book of life. And the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
        Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead that were in it: and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them. And they were judged, every one according to their works.
        Rev 20:14 And hell* and death were cast into the pool of fire. This is the second death.
        Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the pool of fire.

        * Hell:G86 ᾅδης hades (hah”-dace) n.
        1. (properly) unseen
        2. (commonly) “Hades,” the place (state) of departed souls

        The Greek word “hades” is the pendant of the Hebrew “sheol”
        Ps 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell*, [and] all the nations that forget God.
        Hell: Hebrew
        H7585 שְׁאוֹל שְׁאוֹל sh’owl (sheh-ole’) (or shol {sheh-ole’}) n-f.
        1. Hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and inmates
        [from H7592]

        Have you ever asked why a SECOND Judgment? Just to send people to destruction?
        A righteous King who will judge the souls at the second resurection will do it according to HIS WORD, the TORAH (5 Books Moshe) and no other way. In that day all those who will wake up at the second resurrection after the Millennium will have to show THEIR WORKS according to the righteousness of the Torah and be judge accordingly.
        Even those who have NEVER met “jesus” or heard the Gospel, because the Torah is in every man’s heart.
        For the Ysraelites in a different way as thhose from the nations, but nevertheless ALL men have the Torah in their heart and have NO EXCUSE:
        14 For when the nations, which have not the law (Torah), do by nature the things contained in the law (Torah), these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law (Torah) written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when יהוה shall judge the secrets of men by Yehoshua the Messiah according to my evangel.

        How it is with the Torah in the heart of the nations? here Sha’ul/Paul speak about the commandments in relation man to man:
        Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
        Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
        Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
        Exo 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
        Exo 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house; neither shalt thou desire his wife, nor his servant, nor his handmaid, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is his.

        SIN is the transgression of the TORAh (1 John 3:4)
        The wage of sin is: DEATH , first spiritual, second physical,

        Shalom

    • tapiwa says:

      The later day saints doctrine is strange to true Biblical Christians teaching, its too strange. They have a different religion. Jesus is the One God who became flesh. All things were created by Him, for Him, through Him. Great is the mystery of Godliness that God was manifested in flesh seen by Angels taken up in glory. People are not saved by ressurrection, they are saved before resurrection and they receive ertenal life (Zoe) the life of God, the Holy Spirit whilst still in this flesh. That is why Paul says we have already passed from death unto life. Death were is your sting.

  27. LoveQuotes2 says:

    Interesting: my faith, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes in all those principles save we believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. We gain eternal life after all we have done for ourselves through his saving grace. His atonement makes possible the resurrection and eternal life of those who believe and keep his commandments. We worship him as a God, who through others and God’s direction, created this earth and all therein and the Universe. Don White

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    • Linda says:

      We aren’t saved by anything we have done least we should boast. Once we are saved through believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for OUR sin the Holy spirit in us gives us the power to live righteously. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

      • Bobbie says:

        Amen!

      • Donna says:

        Amen, Linda! By grave not works lest any man boast.

      • Donna says:

        *grace NOT grave <<<typo

      • the mormon sect is a non-christian sect started by joseph smith who greatly perverted the gospels by adding his own fanciful stories and heresies
        1- jesus and satan are brothers
        2- men can become Gods on other planets
        3- like number 2, mormons believe that God the father was once a man on this planet who attained “godhood”. hence according to there false theology, God the father was just a created entity (which is blasphemy)
        4- they practice masonic rights in there temples- secret oaths and handshakes are integral to the temple rites. joseph smith was killed because he revealed the masonic rites in mormonism. the early mormons were all freemasons, this alone should convince you that they are anti-christ
        5- the elevate joseph smith above christ
        6- they follow another book, the book of mormon which they claim is superior the holy scripture, which again is blasphemy
        == there are many things which i can tell you that show, mormonism is an anti-christ sect==

      • Anonymous says:

        Amen Linda!! God bless you dearest sister!! Yes, You can do all things in Christ Jesus…!!!

      • Anonymous says:

        Amen Linda!

      • The “Holy Spirt” as you write is given to those who OBEY The Living Elohim (god):
        Ac 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Spirit, whom Elohim hath given to them that obey him.
        To OBEY is to keep the TORAH, commandments of Elohim (God) as Yehoshua (jesus) and the apostles did. All transgression of the Torah is called: SIN (1 John 3:4) and the wage of SIN is death (roman 6:23).

        Messiah died for our PAST SIN, all other sins, muts be worked out according to YHWH righteous TORAH (5books Moshe):
        Rm 3:25 Whom יהוה hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for THE REMISSION OF SINS THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of יהוה;

        This mean that Elohim (god) in hie mercy do not count our PAST SIN against us when we realize that we were sinners (Torah breakers) and make repentance, in Hebrew t’shuvah” meaning turning away from our path to walk in the Torah, thus following the steps of our Master Yehoshua (jesus). the Messiah.
        Without that there is NO remission of sin.
        Shalom

    • Anonymous says:

      We also believe Jesus is “THE” God ..NOT ‘A’ God

      • Anonymous says:

        Funny. What is the reason Satan was cast out of heaven and a third of the angels with him?
        …because he wanted to be on the throne. Hmmmmm. So LoveQuotes2, after you have exhausted yourself with works, which in the Word it clearly says that works are dead, and like dirty rags to God, what reward do you get from all your works on earth? You receive your own planet and become a god……sound familiar?
        If you truly want salvation LoveQuotes2, then truly ask yourself who you are REALLY serving. Repent, and seek The Lord.

      • Jesus is neither “THE” god, nor “A3 god!. He is the son of David after the flesh (Rom. 1:3; Acts 13:23). He is the prophet like Moshe (Deut. 18:15-18, John 6:14;

        If Yehoshua (jesus) would have been conceived by the “Holy spirit”, YHWH would have gone against His Word. Myriam (Marie) was already betrothed to Yoseph. In Hebrew thoughts she was already his wife, thus to interact with her would have been called “adultery”.
        Fact that the “Holy Spirit” came upon her (in Luke version) do not mean that the Spirit made her pregnant, rather the “Holy Spirit” filled the womb with the WORD (Torah) were the child will be conceived. (Yochanan/John 1:1-14)

    • LoveQutes2…Jesus/Yahshua came as Yahweh in the flesh…Read the first chapter of John. In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God….the Word became flesh!!

    • Jesus and nothing else saves your soul to be with Jesus the Lord. It isn’t about man’s religion that saves anyone. Salvation comes only by accepting Jesus Christ as Lord, King of Kings, known as the trinity which is one: Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Jesus is Lord. He arose from the dead the third day. Anyone who repents of their sins, asks Jesus to save them, is then indwelt by His Holy Spirit. Then we the church known as: One Body in Christ, await for the bridegroom to come take us home with him! Jesus went to prepare a place for us (His Church) which is not a building but the temple where He indwells all believers in Christ into One Body. You better believe Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life and that no one comes to the Father but by Him or your eternity will be with satan in the lake of fire! Repent and be saved. Jesus paid the price for sinners on the cross and the jews received Him not but allowed Him to be crucified. Do you yet deny Him today? Who do you say Jesus is? The bible says Jesus is God. In the beginning was the Word and He was with God and He was God. That’s our God. Who is yours? If you have read this message it is now recorded in God’s books. Will you stand before the great white throne? If your name is written in the book of life because you repented and asked Jesus to save you, you will not go to the Great White Throne. We pray for souls, The Lord is near…we will meet Him in the air! bedfordbibletruthassembly.net

    • the mormon sect is a non-christian sect started by joseph smith who greatly perverted the gospels by adding his own fanciful stories and heresies
      1- jesus and satan are brothers
      2- men can become Gods on other planets
      3- like number 2, mormons believe that God the father was once a man on this planet who attained “godhood”. hence according to there false theology, God the father was just a created entity (which is blasphemy)
      4- they practice masonic rights in there temples- secret oaths and handshakes are integral to the temple rites. joseph smith was killed because he revealed the masonic rites in mormonism. the early mormons were all freemasons, this alone should convince you that they are anti-christ
      5- the elevate joseph smith above christ
      6- they follow another book, the book of mormon which they claim is superior the holy scripture, which again is blasphemy
      == there are many things which i can tell you that show, mormonism is an anti-christ sect==

      • I agree with this. Works don’t get you salvation and I don’t believe a man’s words as being a prophet that writes extra books that it clearly states in Revelations that you should not add or remove from this holy book. You also cannot give salvation to the dead because my God gives me salvation through Him so that I can live in His word to walk in His steps so that I may get into Heaven one day. You cannot Baptize yourselves for the dead. It has to be done by those who died before they died. You guys are all messed up in your beliefs as Mormons. I have some friends that are mormon by no means do I agree with it. Read and study only the king James Version and then you shall have the truth.

    • Interesting indeed. I believe him to be GOD not a God….important distinction. One he himself made!

    • JQ says:

      We do not gain eternal life after all we do for ourself. We gain eternal life only through Jesus Christ. We are rewarded by Him for our works and for our love of others.

      • LoveQuotes2 says:

        Right on. It’s really by the grace of Jesus Christ that we obtain eternal life, but our works are counted as righteousness. Don White

    • Anonymous says:

      To Accept Christ is doing something.

      • Beatrice says:

        Just accepting Jesus Christ and repenting is not enough to be saved! If you don’t walk and live the live Jesus did here on earth you will still not be saved! Go to YouTube and watch the Sermon by Paul washer ( Examin yourself ) and you will know how to be saved!!
        God Bless

    • Rev Charles says:

      BOLOGNA! The Mormons use the language, but how they define their terms is VERY different. Satan knows how to wrap lies in words that “sound” right. Liar!

      • Rev Charles says:

        BOLOGNA! The Mormons use the language, but how they define their terms is VERY different. Satan knows how to wrap lies in words that “sound” right. Liar!

    • my understanding Mormons believe god had sex with the virgin mother to conceive Jesus to where I as a Christian believe that Jesus was conceived bye holy sprit !!!!! PT L and don’t forget all the wife’s that a Mormon can have

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